Where we are with this pandemic, and how should we respond?
Hosted by Ahuka on 2020-08-11 is flagged as Clean and is released under a CC-BY-SA license.
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A open series about Health and Healthcare
This is an update to my earlier shows to pull together what we know about the Coronavirus on this date, and what measures we can take. It focuses on the lack of solid information at this point and suggests a prudent course to stay safe. https://www.palain.com/health-topics/coronavirus-update-20200730/
Comment #1 posted on 2020-08-11T22:11:28Z by brian-in-ohio
some 'smart' people may not take a vaccine
My son in law had Guillain–Barré syndrome when he was a child and now can not take vaccines. So not all people that would respond to a survey 'would you take vaccine x yes or no' are stupid. Also 70% immunization rate would achieve this mystical state of herd immunity. Lastly, why is the US distance 6 feet and others ie the Netherlands is 1.5 meters where is the science in any of this? I wish Ahuka would be less disparaging of people with different opinions, calling people stupid diminishes what he has to say. What do you think zen-floater?
Comment #2 posted on 2020-08-12T12:54:55Z by Ahuka
Why it matters
I'm sorry your son got Guillian-Barre syndrome. Of course that means he is not a candidate to get vaccinated, but that is precisely why it is so important that people who are physically capable got the vaccine. Because we don't want him to die of Covid-19 either, and for him it is other people's vaccinations that provide protection.
The 6 feet rule is an approximation based on research into how far virus-laden droplets will move when people are engaged in normal speech and similar activities. If people are doing something like singing, or exercising where they are breathing heavily, six feet may be too close.
Comment #3 posted on 2020-08-13T05:15:37Z by Zen_Floater2
The Squirrel from the Magical Forrest
I must agree with you that Covid-19 has proven to cause damage to heart, lungs, and livers and kidneys and even brain damage.
I think the part that I didn't understand was your comment about watching some video's that you admit Doctors would not endorse or watch...
Clearly, the medical community is divided on all this stuff. The half which is not siding with the WHO have been banned from Twitter and Facebook and have had their video's taken off of Youtube, thus making these corporate entities rulers of the truth.
IN fact, they are unaccountable rulers of the truth.
If your a physicist in this world, and you disagree with Einstein in any way, express a belief in UFO's, or sometimes even show a realism for some of the things shown in the STAR TREK episodes,,, you are shown the door. The community will 100% throw you out the door. There's nothing to debate over there.
But with Covid-19, it's absolutely NOT cut and dried. There are no definitive statements from anyone on Covid-19. As you've pointed out, they've already proved some of the statements made about some of the treatments being talked about have been proven to be wrong and biased.
Part of the blame lies in their bad record keeping. Hospitals will make an automatic $12,000 for every Covid-19 patient they log into the system. And therefore, just everybody had Covid-19 damage, even in you had terminal cancer or were hospice before the entire thing started,,, they file you as a Covid-19 death.
Great Britain has recently admitted they have discovered the same thing happened over there and thus their statistics and record keeping have been skewed badly.
We do not know for sure that 200,000 Americans have in fact died from Covid-19 this year so far. The data on deaths recorded every year in the United States has varied so widely over the past 50 years, it's truthfully uncertain who many we could attribute toward Covid-19.
More on next buffer.
Comment #4 posted on 2020-08-16T13:30:51Z by SkepticalA
Too bad that everyone who isn’t as brainwashed as you is stupid. This is clearly overhyped and playing on people’s fears for financial gain. When my uncle died due to a pacemaker failure and the hospital listed coronavirus in order to collect their check, this became obvious. But hey, what do I know. I’m probably stupid...
Comment #5 posted on 2020-08-16T18:59:26Z by Bob
Fact Checks on one of your claims
The UK did in lower their records by 5,000. However the reason was not bad record keeping as claimed above. In England the tally included anyone who has tested positive for COVID-19 and later died, with no cut-off point between positive test and death. While Scotland only counts deaths that occur within 28 days of a positive test.
Their official statement is here:
Classifications should be done as follows:
"A death due to COVID-19 is defined for surveillance purposes as a death resulting from a clinically compatible illness, in a probable or confirmed COVID-19 case, unless there is a clear alternative cause of death that cannot be related to COVID disease (e.g. trauma)."
Comment #6 posted on 2020-08-16T21:34:20Z by brian-in-ohio
I wasn't looking for sympathy, I was hoping you would see that falling into using pejorative statements is exactly the cause of so many problems between people. Using the word stupid stops the conversation, that was my point.
Comment #7 posted on 2020-08-16T21:59:54Z by Ahuka
Regarding the 6 foot distance of separation, I should have been clearer that this is a recommendation for when you are out-of-doors. There is no such things as a safe distance if you are indoors with someone who has the disease. If you are there for long you will get the disease.
Comment #8 posted on 2020-08-19T04:30:36Z by Zen_Floater2
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Comment #9 posted on 2020-08-21T07:34:47Z by Anon
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